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That was the dirtiest thing Ive ever heard of, urinating on a dead mans face! And the altitude I was in doesnt compare to 29,000, cant imagine RIP for those who didnt make it. Otherwise, many more people wouldve been rescued over the years. They were choosing objectives that were extremely risky, and they died. Hypothermia isnt even close to the most unpleasant way to die. Even the girl who asked why dont they get the bodies? is above you level. Ive always wondered that, too, Albert: Are there any studies about post summit depression, or similar conditions? The pair disappeared high on Everest in 1982 while trying to summit Everest via The Pinnacles, a difficult route that has to this day never been conquered. Above 24,000 is the death zone. PLEASE dont leave me, the dying woman cried. Below: David Sharps memorial and Green Boots Cave, where David Sharp was found. No where do I suggest abandoning everything all together for the sake of parenting. Well what you mean then Melissa, is that you do agree with me. But the condition was to abandon the idea of reaching the peak. I know you werent trying to inflammatory with your statement, so please dont take my response as such. People that climb do so for reasons that the lazy, slow fat housewives sitting behind their laptop dont understand. The bottomline was that he wanted me to understand I was choosing to do something very dangerous and that ultimately my safety and well being came down to my own decision at the end of the day. When climbers perish here, they're frozen in place, and after a certain point removing their colorful corpses becomes too difficult, too expensive, and too dangerous so What is the difference between the Wright Brothers first flight, and the first men in space or on the moon, or a race car driver at Indy or someone who wants to swim a channel or be the first to go around the earth in a balloon or by boat alone? SO.Please stop being illiterate and ignorant and learn when to use Than and Then! They cant dare to dream or be creative. 1st.- some of the people leaving comments here have got to go back to school to learn how to spell. When you go to a national park, or a ski mountain, there are rescue units. Those who earn it should be able to do what they want, guilt free. Our daughter chose a natural healing and recovery to battle her cancer, and with the help of her boyfriend and his family members, it was successful. With the harsh conditions, and lack of oxygen, even small movements and extra movements are difficult, Just your clothing and equipment would be hard to manage in that environment. In those conditions, there are a few possibilities besides they dont respect life: the people who pass by could be experiencing hallucinations, believe theyre experiencing hallucinations, be in a relative state of dementia and unaware of the gravity of the dying persons condition (especially with all that gear and covering on), simply be too addled to process the situation at all, be willing to help but physically incapable of doing so, think the person is already dead, or, yes, be uncaring and self-interested with an only the strong survive mentality. Its not something you just decide to do on a whim. We would like to show you a description here but the site wont allow us. With greatest respect to you and your amazing work, I do feel that the decisions you are forced to make in the line of your profession is in a very different context to choosing to go with a group of people and place yourself in an area of great potential danger in the pursuit of leisure. why didnt they just use helicopters to fetch the bodies??? But if relative novices can participate (and Im not saying they shouldnt, so please dont attack me for a view I do not hold), then perhaps the numbers allowed during each season should be scaled back. WOW! Otherwise maybe more would attempt this and fail. There is no info that the first climbers which passed near David administered oxygen to him and protected him with blankets, like the 2 sherpas (who came much later) did. Oh its easy to say that sitting at a desk, but it is very literally physically impossible to save someone who has gotten into trouble up there. on this beautiful mountain succes and dead lies close together . Apparently you feel warm, right at the end, just before you pass away. Mount Everest Rainbow Valley is a small area just below the northern side of the summit. They do not go up there with the intent of dying and creating a graveyard. So that would save the dead climbers? Coincidentally, David stopped to rest in the same cave as Green Boots; one theory holds the passing climbers might have assumed Sharp was Green Boots. Submit your specifications and dealers who may have what you are looking for will contact you. Although I know that she is nervous of the cancer coming back, she now wants to climb Everest and now is in training to begin her journey towards that goal. If they didnt, then they were indeed idiots. Station the teams in rescue camps at multiple elevations. to the retards calling the climbers and dead bodies on Everest Stupid. At least the normal working tax payer does not have to fund these people,,,,, but by god we are obliged to pay for many that we dont have any power over. Many can sit at the sidelines and become an armchair quarterback, but when the chips are down, how would you respond? Strong winds of the mountain pushed her body down where she still remains known as the German Woman. I dont care what you want to tell yourself to alleviate the guilt, the truth is, you dont disrespect life like that. Sure man may have no business on the mountain, but thats exactly why he does it, to push himself to places that no one thought possible. Why dont you just stop breathing, you sad, pathetic little TROLL? Why? Many people giving opinions here dont understand because theyve never been its easy to speak or judge without knowing. They came to there fears and they made there decisions to come face with this deadly mountain that was well known. My parents are in the same boat because they also were good planners who prepared for the future. I wish and pray to be as lucky as them and die doing what I love. So crazy that this thread has been going for so long. Until you yourself have been there an brought someone back then I dont see how you have a right to pass judgement on anyone else. Turn around and go back down instead of continuing to the summit? The Rainbow Valley isnt actually a valley at all, but an area just below the summit of Everests Northeast Ridge, where dozens of unlucky mountaineers remain frozen in time. Those loads dont equate to 115(+) pound climbers. They are respected and admired. Everest do it to prove it to themselves that they can. Have you ever faced and conquered an adversary in a street fight? its people like that who ruin the planet with their arrogance, egos, greed, and hubris. But the grim statistic is that for every ten climbers whove conquered the mountain, one has died either on the way up or way down. Ppl die of car accidents, burglary, in theme park accidents, natural disasters (i lived in tornado alley for almost 20yrs). But hes merely one example. The climb itself is dangerous, though not impossible. And he does so with less regard for other members of his team, both climbers and Sherpas, than for his need to gratify his ego. Then move on. Signed: A retired pro surfer and record holding female 0-60 second setter who didnt engage either of these activities in order to feel that I am better than anyone else. Its called ambition.you cant buy it, you cant have someone give it to you freely. But my advice to anyone who wishes to climb Everest would be to not only be as fully aware as they could be of the personal risks that they take on when doing so, but to also to be fully aware of how their tragic misfortune on Everest could affect the day to day lives of the people they love. Alexander the great is still mentioned today do you think anybody will know your name or those who have died, There is nothing heroic in dying for your own glory. This poeple are braver than anyone even can imagine ! Its getting to the top of something knowing people that had dying doing it that would drive me to, then again im one of those people who understands that you cant understand something until youve done it for yourself and experience the mindset you are in as you climb, if you make it or not. It WOULD be a helluva way to check out early. Were just bugs crawling on the surface of this planet. growing up on a farm we had animals die when it was below freezing. Sad all the people who died. In my books an adventure is a very risky act bur with a purpose not a selfish reason for doing it. I do suspect that if someone were to finally fulfill a task that they had risked to death in order to complete, their feelings after the tasks completion would reach a point of satisfaction many other human beings rarely experience. This doesnt impress me anymore. Still, at least if I start to go bald or have an enlarged prostate at any time, Ill know where to look. I would like to think they died doing something they loved, and at least they tried to do what most people consider impossible. I am hoping to change her mind. You accept the fact you may not come back before you even start. We run into burning buildings sacrificing out lives so that others may have a better chance at theirs. Privacy Policy He saved tho climber, but from much lower attitude. I had the luck of meeting George Lowe who went on that expedition with Hillary in 1953. What is wrong with you people?! I completely disagree. Melissa S. you trolling the comments with your ignorants dont help anyone ether. The bodies have basically become part of the mountain. Was it removed? Everest. I have a family and wouldnt take risks like this, so therefore I dont not understand others that do. Tsewang was part of the unfortunate group involved in the 1996 Mount Everest Disaster, the deadliest single disaster in Mt. I quit skydiving and BASE jumping because I have so many dead friends that died doing it. How does discovering new lands or new planets compare to dying on the way up a mountain? I can understand that maybe you cant help a freezing person in that harsh condition, but they decided to go UP to the summit. To know you dont have to die all alone. So should someone either ascending or descending burn up all their oxygen and calories to sit with the fallen climber until they kick the bucket? I really dont get the impression that David Sharp intended to come down that hill. You make a claim that you understand it, but your words deceive you because in fact they state you do not. Its your choice nothing wrong with that. It seems like in most cases, people who climb Mt. I, for one, have great respect for other cultures and adventure hobbies of all kinds. Im also looking for pictures of rainbow valley. It takes extreme commitment and dedication (on a level which you clearly cannot relate to) in order to prepare for Everest, physically and mentally. It is a huge mental and physical effort just to put one foot in front of the other. I hope, sometimes a hotel will be built on the Everest, with a big, broad way to go with car up and down. i am typing this on my android right under the Serac of K2 hope i make it home, What route are you doing on K2? How do you think we made it to the moon? Assualting Everest is a person going to war just like any battle in history, same odds of death. In the book Dark Summit: The True Story of Mount Everests Most Controversial Season, the author states that in 2007 Russell Brice arranged for David Sharps mother, father and brother to join his expedition to base camp. Just you, a few friends, and a desolate mountain range away from the masses. In my opinion, it is not worth it. For those of you who argue the point that it is impossible to help, I say to you that you are wrong. Mount Everest Rainbow Valley happens to fall on the Everest Death Zone, which is a part of the mountain between 8000 m and 8848 m. The reason why its called Everest Death Zone is that maximum deaths during the climb or descent happen here. And as I see, some bodies are like somebody has eaten them and somebody has stolen their boots and clothes. You may have something there. And why is everyone fighting on this thread???? The Rainbow Valley sounds like a majestic and peaceful place on paper, but in reality, its a scene from a horror movie. HOWEVER, starve me of food and / or oxygen and Im bound to think differently. Just because you have an opinion doesnt make you better or correct. Shale rock is unstable in the best cases. Point being, ALL these climbers knew the inherent risks involved. Very fit. ?i agree. I dont get it either. Please, for the love of the Internet, think before posting. Adrian Ballinger is one of the USAs premier high-altitude mountain guides, and the only American guide to have both AMGA/IFMGA guides certification (one of roughly 150 in the USA) and more than a fifteen summits of 8,000 meter peaks (17 total, including 8 summits of Mt. I suppose, over the course of 50 years, we might expect there to be numerous fatal accidents on a busy road. climbers feed Nepalese people and not their gods. 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